2007 Yamaha Ar210 Review
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| Post subject: SX/AR 210 Horse Power Question | |
| Joined: Thu May 28, 2009 10:05 am Posts: 10 Location: Imperial, MO | Am I correct in understanding that since 2007 the 210's are only offered with 220hp? I looked at the spreadsheet, found on this site, and it shows in 2006 this boat had 280hp. If so, why did they stop offering the 280hp option? I have been looking for a well cared for, low hour, 2005 or newer for some time now. My first preference is the SX230HO due to greater size and power. I would even consider the 230 non HO if the boat was clean and priced right. That said, I have recently been considering the 210 as being adequate for my intended use…i.e. I would have more used boats to choose from…that is until I realized most of what I am finding only have 220hp. All along I was assuming they had the 280hp engines. I found one that was left over, new, for about the same prices I had been finding the 230's for used. I talked to this dealer and it was the dealer who informed it was 220hp. What type of performance numbers, i.e. top end, would I expect to see with 220hp. Any problem pulling skiers or tubes? I know the newer 212's come with the HO engines but they are just too much $$$. That for the input...Toby
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| mannymach1 | Post subject: Re: SX/AR 210 Horse Power Question |
| Joined: Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:57 pm Posts: 360 Location: Missery city, texas Year: 2008 Make: Yamaha Model: AR210 (4 Cycle) | 220 Hp is the four stroke--top speed for the AR210----40 (full) to 50 mph (very empty) _________________ |
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| kvoman | Post subject: Re: SX/AR 210 Horse Power Question | ||
Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2004 2:39 pm Posts: 5723 Location: Morgan Hill, Northern CA Year: 2006 Make: Yamaha Model: AR230HO | Toby from MO wrote: Am I correct in understanding that since 2007 the 210's are only offered with 220hp? I looked at the spreadsheet, found on this site, and it shows in 2006 this boat had 280hp. If so, why did they stop offering the 280hp option? I have been looking for a well cared for, low hour, 2005 or newer for some time now. My first preference is the SX230HO due to greater size and power. I would even consider the 230 non HO if the boat was clean and priced right. That said, I have recently been considering the 210 as being adequate for my intended use…i.e. I would have more used boats to choose from…that is until I realized most of what I am finding only have 220hp. All along I was assuming they had the 280hp engines. I found one that was left over, new, for about the same prices I had been finding the 230's for used. I talked to this dealer and it was the dealer who informed it was 220hp. What type of performance numbers, i.e. top end, would I expect to see with 220hp. Any problem pulling skiers or tubes? I know the newer 212's come with the HO engines but they are just too much $$$. That for the input...Toby You must have looked at the wrong row because the '06 - current 210 boats (AR/SX) have always had 220 HP. The 280 HP is for the 230 ('03 - 06) series non-HO engines boats, the 230 series also had HO engines ('05 - current) with 320 HP instead of 280 HP. _________________ | ||
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| trace | Post subject: Re: SX/AR 210 Horse Power Question | ||
Joined: Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:43 pm Posts: 605 Location: Wildwood, MO Year: 2012 Make: Yamaha Model: 212SS | My '08 AR210 will just see 40 on smooth water, no wind, with 4 people, full fuel, 1 dog, and bimini up, boating on Rend, Norfork, Lou Yeager all of which are normal pool near 600ish feet. No problems pulling tubers, boarders, etc..., you can yank the rope right out of someones hand if you want to. More power is always a good thing, but it will get the job done. If you are going to be boating at higher elevations, some folks are disappointed with the performance out of the 210. _________________ | ||
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| Toby from MO | Post subject: Re: SX/AR 210 Horse Power Question |
| Joined: Thu May 28, 2009 10:05 am Posts: 10 Location: Imperial, MO | kvoman wrote: Toby from MO wrote: Am I correct in understanding that since 2007 the 210's are only offered with 220hp? I looked at the spreadsheet, found on this site, and it shows in 2006 this boat had 280hp. If so, why did they stop offering the 280hp option? I have been looking for a well cared for, low hour, 2005 or newer for some time now. My first preference is the SX230HO due to greater size and power. I would even consider the 230 non HO if the boat was clean and priced right. That said, I have recently been considering the 210 as being adequate for my intended use…i.e. I would have more used boats to choose from…that is until I realized most of what I am finding only have 220hp. All along I was assuming they had the 280hp engines. I found one that was left over, new, for about the same prices I had been finding the 230's for used. I talked to this dealer and it was the dealer who informed it was 220hp. What type of performance numbers, i.e. top end, would I expect to see with 220hp. Any problem pulling skiers or tubes? I know the newer 212's come with the HO engines but they are just too much $$$. That for the input...Toby You must have looked at the wrong row because the '06 - current 210 boats (AR/SX) have always had 220 HP. The 280 HP is for the 230 ('03 - 06) series non-HO engines boats, the 230 series also had HO engines ('05 - current) with 320 HP instead of 280 HP. I must have an older revision. I'm looking the spreadsheet named Yamaha Jet Boat Features that someone on this sight created. It shows 2006 as the first year for the 210 and it lists 280HP. Looking further into the speadsheet I notice it doesn't list the 280hp engines as being an option on any boat for 2008 or 2009. It appears Yamaha went strictly with the 220hp option or the 320hp HO. Since they are now putting HO in 21' boats I would think the 280hp non HO's would be an ideal lower cost option for the 21' boats. If so I'd go with a newer 210 in a heartbeat...but I am a little concerned about spending my money and be satisfied with the 220hp. |
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| Toby from MO | Post subject: Re: SX/AR 210 Horse Power Question |
| Joined: Thu May 28, 2009 10:05 am Posts: 10 Location: Imperial, MO | trace wrote: My '08 AR210 will just see 40 on smooth water, no wind, with 4 people, full fuel, 1 dog, and bimini up, boating on Rend, Norfork, Lou Yeager all of which are normal pool near 600ish feet. No problems pulling tubers, boarders, etc..., you can yank the rope right out of someones hand if you want to. More power is always a good thing, but it will get the job done. If you are going to be boating at higher elevations, some folks are disappointed with the performance out of the 210. Trace...I live in Imperial, MO. 90% of boating would take place on Clearwater Lake in Piedmont, MO. The remainder of time (off weekends) would be on any water close to home for a day trip. Not many dealers around here. Where did you pick up your boat? New or Used? Toby |
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| brmorganjr | Post subject: Re: SX/AR 210 Horse Power Question |
| Joined: Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:57 pm Posts: 5438 Location: Castaic, CA Year: 2007 Make: Yamaha Model: AR210 (4 Cycle) | The 212 is the 210 with HO's and other upgrades, but same layout. Trace - dump 2 people, 1/2 a tank of gas, 1 dog, and put the bimini down, you can hit 45-48, but then again I am telling you to get rid of about 800 lbs and a parachute. _________________ 07 AR 210 - Ve Ve Guides - Screamin Sacs - Cobra Fins - EZ-Locks - Keel Guard - Polk MM651's - MP3 Jack |
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A couple of weeks ago, I had 7 adults and the bimini up and would top out at about 40. Note these reading are by the dream-o-meter on rough water, but who cares, everyone had a great time. 
| trace | Post subject: Re: SX/AR 210 Horse Power Question | ||
Joined: Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:43 pm Posts: 605 Location: Wildwood, MO Year: 2012 Make: Yamaha Model: 212SS | BR, the numbers I posted are GPS not dream-o-meter, so we are talking the same numbers. Toby, I was on Clearwater Labor Day '08 and it was an absolute zoo. I bought my boat new from St.Charles Boat and Motor and they are fantastic to deal with. Jerry Sims is their service manager and he and his mechanics know these boats very well and are very easy to deal with regarding warranty work. They are very serious about supporting these boats. _________________ | ||
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| Toby from MO | Post subject: Re: SX/AR 210 Horse Power Question |
| Joined: Thu May 28, 2009 10:05 am Posts: 10 Location: Imperial, MO | trace wrote: BR, the numbers I posted are GPS not dream-o-meter, so we are talking the same numbers. Toby, I was on Clearwater Labor Day '08 and it was an absolute zoo. I bought my boat new from St.Charles Boat and Motor and they are fantastic to deal with. Jerry Sims is their service manager and he and his mechanics know these boats very well and are very easy to deal with regarding warranty work. They are very serious about supporting these boats. Our rule #1 for Clearwater...stay off the lake during Memorial Day, Labor day & July 4. Our house is located on the river about 1 mile below the dam...on those holidays I stay on the river in the aluminum jet. I just need to find a good used glass jet to compliment the aluminum. |
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| Mitchelled | Post subject: Re: SX/AR 210 Horse Power Question |
| Joined: Tue Aug 12, 2003 9:53 am Posts: 8676 Location: Raleigh, NC Year: 2005 Make: Yamaha Model: SX230HO Misc: Hydrotherapy II | There were mistakes (yes my fault) in the spreadsheet in earlier editions. The 210s come with 220hp unless you get a 212X or SS in which case they have 320. It should be correct now. If not, please send me a PM (private message) and I will look into it. _________________ YJB Reference Thread-Maintenance Info,Part Numbers, Tips, Polls & More PerfectPass,Cobra Fins,Dual Batt. w/ACR,Boat Buckles,Garmin 430s GPS w/RAM mount,JVC KS-U57 MP3 Input, Camper/Cockpit/Bow Covers,Bilge & Fume Alarms,Guide Posts, BlueSea 4gang Switch,Fender locks, 6.5" Polk DB Speakers in bow and cabin & 6x9's in Cabin and Fusion 4" on stern,Cabin LEDs,Guest dual bank charger with through hull, and SeaDek Titanium swim deck. Used to own an '03 LX210. |
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| StefanGordon | Post subject: Re: SX/AR 210 Horse Power Question |
| Joined: Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:47 pm Posts: 28 Year: 2009 Make: Yamaha Model: AR210 (4 Cycle) | It's really hard for me to imagine you not having enough power with the AR210. I've got a 2009, and almost never use full throttle. Pulling two tubes with 2 people on each is trivial, it's like they aren't even there. Large (250lb) wake boarders pop out of the water with about 6k rpm, any more and they can't hold the handle. Had 9 large adults on the boat, and still had no trouble doing 40mph, have never felt limited by the engines, usually just by the wind hitting the bimini and making too much vibration so we slow down. You will have plenty of power, don't worry. _________________ |
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| LDJAwilliams | Post subject: Re: SX/AR 210 Horse Power Question |
| Joined: Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:30 am Posts: 4 Year: 2010 Make: Yamaha Model: AR210 (4 Cycle) | I have a 2010 AR210 - Im 230 lb 64 year old slalom skiier-nothing pulls me out fast enogh-I put Solas impellers on (at the recomendation of someone here on Yamaha Jet Boats)and WOW what a difference!!!!!! Next I put on Thrsut Vectors -way better than cobras and less drag at spped, safer etc. Bimini up (all the time) 4 folks and a ful tank it tops out at 42-3 but boy does it get there quick now. Previously owned the 2003 250HP Utopia which obly weighed 2300 pound so I am discriminating, prior to that a big block 23 foot 93 Baja (before that a Marathon, before that a 17 Lund Fish & Ski) . |
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| Battaglia03 | Post subject: Re: SX/AR 210 Horse Power Question | ||
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:36 am Posts: 150 Location: Massapequa, NY Year: 2006 Make: Yamaha Model: AR210 (4 Cycle) | kvoman wrote: Toby from MO wrote: Am I correct in understanding that since 2007 the 210's are only offered with 220hp? I looked at the spreadsheet, found on this site, and it shows in 2006 this boat had 280hp. If so, why did they stop offering the 280hp option? I have been looking for a well cared for, low hour, 2005 or newer for some time now. My first preference is the SX230HO due to greater size and power. I would even consider the 230 non HO if the boat was clean and priced right. That said, I have recently been considering the 210 as being adequate for my intended use…i.e. I would have more used boats to choose from…that is until I realized most of what I am finding only have 220hp. All along I was assuming they had the 280hp engines. I found one that was left over, new, for about the same prices I had been finding the 230's for used. I talked to this dealer and it was the dealer who informed it was 220hp. What type of performance numbers, i.e. top end, would I expect to see with 220hp. Any problem pulling skiers or tubes? I know the newer 212's come with the HO engines but they are just too much $$$. That for the input...Toby You must have looked at the wrong row because the '06 - current 210 boats (AR/SX) have always had 220 HP. The 280 HP is for the 230 ('03 - 06) series non-HO engines boats, the 230 series also had HO engines ('05 - current) with 320 HP instead of 280 HP. I have a 2006 AR210, 220HP, with top down full tank/cooler 4 people and window closed i get 40-42MPH, window open or top up i drop 4MPH _________________ | ||
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| Bmendenhall | Post subject: Re: SX/AR 210 Horse Power Question | ||
Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 5:50 pm Posts: 85 Location: Acworth, GA Year: 2011 Make: Yamaha Model: AR210 (4 Cycle) | I was worried about the power before I bought my 2011 AR210 last month. Have not had any problem at all with the power. 6 adults and 2 teenagers on tubes, no problem, same with wakeboard. Only thing I have heard is that over 3,000 feet above sea level you lose some power. But have not been there and probably never will _________________ | ||
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| gunner581 | Post subject: Re: SX/AR 210 Horse Power Question | ||
Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:57 am Posts: 356 Location: Massachusetts Year: 2008 Make: Yamaha Model: AR210 (4 Cycle) | 8 people in the boat including a buddy who weights 280 lbs sitting in the bow and my buddies and I were able to get up on the wakeboard with no problem at all. It was actually better that way because of the monster wake we had going. _________________ 2009 Chevy Silverado 1500 LTZ | ||
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